Is there any way to specify different font sizes for fallback fonts in CSS? I want to do something like this (which obviously does not work):
div { font-family: "Arial Narrow", Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 20px, 18px, 18px, 18px; }
The idea being that Arial Narrow would display at 20px if the user has it installed; if not, the browser would fall back to Arial at 18px, then Helvetica at 18px, etc.
Or, could I use JS to achieve a similar effect?
If Arial Narrow is missing on some browsers, those browsers normally accept @font-face urls like
@font-face I find works on all common browsers except for IE8/IE9, if vista dose not have Arial Narrow for example I use fullback CSS for IE8 with new font size
With Javascript, you can make a span with a capital "A" in it. If Arial Narrow is installed, this will have a width of 11px, if not it will have a width greater than that. You can check this span and then hide it to determine what you have installed.
I understand what you want, but I think the answer to your question is "No, this can't be done in CSS", at least not in CSS2 afaik.
Hoping someone can prove me wrong, 'cause i want this too :D
I suppose JS can accomplish this, at least up to some point. Not sure if there is a "is this font installed?" method in JS, but you may be able to make some educated guesses based on OS and such. Got no experience there sorry.
Edit: some quick googling does provide a few clever JS tricks, though I haven't tried them yet. E.g. http://remysharp.com/2008/07/08/how-to-detect-if-a-font-is-installed-only-using-javascript/
Another edit, after some more searching: I was triggered by the "someone should propose it" :D. It seems CSS3 spec has the "font-size-adjust", which may be of use here. However, support in browsers other than Firefox may not be optimal at the time I write this. Here's the W3 word on that property: http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-font/#font-size-adjust
I had a related problem using CSS3 fonts, which obviously don't work in IE6-8. The fallback font (Arial) is much bigger than the default font. Got round it in a similar way to mVChr but by detecting the browser. Not pretty really, but the joys of having to support IE. Code (with jQuery):