Why do we say the IP protocol in TCP/IP suite is c

2019-03-10 00:52发布

Why is the IP called a connectionless protocol? If so, what is the connection-oriented protocol then?

Thanks.

Update - 1 - 20:21 2010/12/26

I think, to better answer my question, it would be better to explain what "connection" actually means, both physically and logically.

Update - 2 - 9:59 AM 2/1/2013

Based on all the answers below, I come to the feeling that the 'connection' mentioned here should be considered as a set of actions/arrangements/disciplines. Thus it's more an abstract concept rather than a concrete object.

Update - 3 - 11:35 AM 6/18/2015

Here's a more physical explanation:

  • IP protocol is connectionless in that all packets in IP network are routed independently, they may not necessarily go through the same route, while in a virtual circuit network which is connection oriented, all packets go through the same route. This single route is what 'virtual circuit' means.

  • With connection, because there's only 1 route, all data packets will arrive in the same order as they are sent out.

  • Without connection, it is not guaranteed all data packets will arrive in the same order as they are sent out.

Update - 4 - 9:55 AM 2016/1/20/Wed

One of the characteristics of connection-oriented is that the packet order is preserved. TCP use a sequence number to achieve that but IP has no such facility. Thus TCP is connection-oriented while IP is connection-less.

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Animai°情兽
2楼-- · 2019-03-10 01:11

TCP/IP means "TCP over IP".

TCP
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IP
  • TCP provides the "connection-oriented" logic, ordering and control
  • IP provides getting packets from A to B however it can: "connectionless"

Notes:

  • UDP is connection less but at the same level as TCP
  • Other protocols such as ICMP (used by ping) can run over IP but have nothing to do with TCP

Edit:

  • "connection-oriented" mean established end to end connection. For example, you pick up the telephone, call someone = you have a connection.

  • "connection-less" means "send it, see what happens". For example, sending a letter via snail mail.a

So IP gets your packets from A to B, maybe, in any order, not always eventually. TCP sorts them out, acknowledges them, requests a resends and provides the "connection"

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一纸荒年 Trace。
3楼-- · 2019-03-10 01:12

Connectionless means that no effort is made to set up a dedicated end-to-end connection, While Connection-Oriented means that when devices communicate, they perform handshaking to set up an end-to-end connection.

IP is an example of the Connectionless protocols , in this kind of protocols you usually send informations in one direction, from source to destination without checking to see if the destination is still there, or if it is prepared to receive the information .

Connectionless protocols (Like IP and UDP) are used for example with the Video Conferencing when you don't care if some packets are lost , while you have to use a Connection-Oriented protocol (Like TCP) when you send a File because you want to insure that all the packets are sent successfully (actually we use FTP to transfer Files).

Edit :

In telecommunication and computing in general, a connection is the successful completion of necessary arrangements so that two or more parties (for example, people or programs) can communicate at a long distance. In this usage, the term has a strong physical (hardware) connotation although logical (software) elements are usually involved as well.

The physical connection is layer 1 of the OSI model, and is the medium through which the data is transfered. i.e., cables

The logical connection is layer 3 of the OSI model, and is the network portion. Using the Internetwork Protocol (IP), each host is assigned a 32 bit IP address. e.g. 192.168.1.1

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在下西门庆
4楼-- · 2019-03-10 01:15

TCP is the connection part of TCP/IP. IP's the addressing.

Or, as an analogy, IP is the address written on the envelope, TCP is the postal system which uses the address as part of the work of getting the envelope from point A to point B.

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别忘想泡老子
5楼-- · 2019-03-10 01:20

The basic idea is pretty simple: with IP (on its own -- no TCP, UDP, etc.) you're just sending a packet of data. You simply send some data onto the net with a destination address, but that's it. By itself, IP gives:

  1. no assurance that it'll be delivered
  2. no way to find out if it was
  3. nothing to let the destination know to expect a packet
  4. much of anything else

All it does is specify a minimal packet format so you can get some data from one point to another (e.g., routers know the packet format, so they can look at the destination and send the packet on its next hop).

TCP is connection oriented. Establishing a connection means that at the beginning of a TCP conversation, it does a "three way handshake" so (in particular) the destination knows that a connection with the source has been established. It keeps track of that address internally, so it can/will/does expect more packets from it, and be able to send replies to (for example) acknowledge each packet it receives. The source and destination also cooperate to serial number all the packets for the acknowledgment scheme, so each end knows whether packets it sent were received at the other end. This doesn't involve much physically, but logically it involves allocating some memory on both ends. That includes memory for metadata like the next packet serial number to use, as well as payload data for possible re-transmission until the other side acknowledges receipt of that packet.

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兄弟一词,经得起流年.
6楼-- · 2019-03-10 01:23

When two hosts want to communicate using connection oriented protocol, one of them must first initiate a connection and the other must accept it. Logically a connection is made between a port in one host and other port in the other host. Software in one host must perform a connect socket operation, and the other must perform an accept socket operation. Physically the initiator host sends a SYN packet, which contains all four connection identifying numbers (source IP, source port, destination IP, destination port). The other receives it and sends SYN-ACK, the initiator sends an ACK, then the connection are established. After the connection established, then the data could be transferred, in both directions. In the other hand, connectionless protocol means that we don't need to establish connection to send data. It means the first packet being sent from one host to another could contain data payloads. Of course for upper layer protocols such as UDP, the recipient must be ready first, (e.g.) it must perform a listen udp socket operation.

  • The connectionless IP became foundation for TCP in the layer above
  • In TCP, at minimal 2x round trip times are required to send just one packet of data. That is : a->b for SYN, b->a for SYN-ACK, a->b for ACK with DATA, b->a for ACK. For flow rate control, Nagle's algorithm is applied here.
  • In UDP, only 0.5 round trip times are required : a->b with DATA. But be prepared that some packets could be silently lost and there is no flow control being done. Packets could be sent in the rate that are larger than the capability of the receiving system.
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三岁会撩人
7楼-- · 2019-03-10 01:29

I just came across this question today. It was bouncing around in my head all day and didn't make any sense. IP doesn't handle transport. Why would anyone even think of IP as connectionless or connection oriented? It is technically connectionless because it offers no reliability, no guaranteed delivery. But so is my toaster. My toaster offers no guaranteed delivery, so why not call aa toaster connectionless too?

In the end, I found out it's just some stupid title that someone somewhere attached to IP and it stuck, and now everyone calls IP connectionless and has no good reason for it.

Calling IP connectionless implies there is another layer 3 protocol that is connection oriented, but as far as I know, there isn't and it is just plain stupid to specify that IP is connectionless. MAC is connectionless. LLC is connectionless. But that is useless, technically correct info.

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