I am setting up the backbone sync mechanism and am a bit confused where to generate the id's for the models.
When I create a new model, should backbone be generating and setting the id, or am i supposed to implement an id generation method, or is there some sort of mechanism where I "PUT" the data to the server, which generates the id and returns a model with the id?
Kind of. When you call the save method of your model, backbone make a POST XHR and your application server should respond with JSON contains an id. You can see an example here: http://addyosmani.com/blog/building-backbone-js-apps-with-ruby-sinatra-mongodb-and-haml/
Quoting from the link:
If you don't know Ruby keep in mind what the last expression that is evaluated is automatically returned by the method.
I'm providing a second answer to simplify the code you need to study to get the main points you're pondering about - the actual round about from model to server and how ids play their role.
Say you define a model - Let's go with Jurassic Park.
You now have instantiated a dinosaur that is a meat eater. Roar.
What you should notice is that in the properties of tRex, your model does not have an id. Instead, you will see a cID which you can think of as a temporary id that Backbone automatically assigns to your models. When a model doesn't have an id it is considered new. The concept of persisting a model (either to a database or local storage) is what allows you to go back to that resource after you've created it and do things like save (PUT) or destroy (DELETE). It would be hard to find that resource if you had no way to point directly at it again! In order to find that resource, your model needs an id, something it currently does not have.
So as the above answers have explained it is the job of your database (or localstorage, or some other solution) to provide Backbone with a resource id. Most of the time, this comes from the resource id itself, aka - the primary key id of your model in some table.
With my setup, I use PHP and mySQL. I would have a table called Dinosaur and each row would be a persistent representation of my dino model. So I'd have an id column (unique auto-incrementing int), and cavemanEater (bool).
The data communication flow happens like this.
Here is what annotated code looks like.
CLIENT:
SERVER:
CLIENT:
Now your tRex has an id = 1. Or should I say...
Congrats. If you do this
tRex.isNew()
it will return false.Backbone is smart. It knows to POST new models and PUT models that already have a resource id.
The next time you do this:
Backbone will make a PUT request to the following URL.
http://www.example.com/dino/1
That is the default behavior by the way. But what you'll notice is that the URL is different than save. On the server you would need a route that accepts /dino/:id as opposed to /dino
It will use the /urlRoot/:id route pattern for your models by default unless you tweak it otherwise.
Unfortunately, dinosaurs are extinct.
This will call... Can you guess? Yep. DELETE request to /dino/1.
Your server must distinguish between different requests to different routes in order for Backbone to work. There are several server side technologies that can do this.
Someone mentioned Sinatra if you're using Ruby. Like I said, I use PHP and I use SLIM PHP Framework. It is inspired by Sinatra so it's similar and I love it. The author writes some clean code. How these RESTful server implementations work is outside the scope of this discussion though.
I think this is the basic full travel of new Backbone data with no id, across the internets to your server where it generates, and sends back the resource id, to make your model live happily ever after. (Or
destroy()
not...)I don't know if this is too beginner for you but hopefully it will help someone else who runs into this problem. Backbone is really fun to program with.
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What I understand from your question is that you want to have a collection with models that exist on the server. In order to get these models into the collection you'd have to add call 'fetch()' on the collection.
The url would be "/users" or something similar, that would have to return an array of objects with user data in there. Each item in the array would then be passed to UserCollection.add(). Well, actually it would be passed all at once, but you get the point.
After this your collection is populated. The url on the Model is meant for updating and saving the individual model. The url of the collection will also be used for creating models. Backbone's sync is RESTful, like Ruby on Rails. You can actually learn more about it on the documentation of Ruby on Rails:
http://guides.rubyonrails.org/routing.html
What you would generally do is have a different url for your model than for your controller. After populating your collection you have id's for each model in there because they came from the server.
Now when you add a new model based on user input you'd do something like this:
The example is from someone else's question I answered, I just add the relevant things.
The general idea is to save the model when it is created, if you need it somewhere else you can just move the code into a function of the model and call that based on events or anything else.