how many number of nodes we can create under hyper

Question

Is there any limit of creating number of nodes while configuring hyperledger fabric?

I have gone through the below answer but I'm not clear what he is explaining.

Limit of number of nodes in Hyperledger

When I say number of nodes, it could be number of stakeholders(marked as organizations) or peers or endorser nodes.

Answer 1

There is no limit to creating the number of nodes in fabric ( that's the idea behind distributed system) but be aware that as and when you start adding more and more nodes, you may see the performance being adversely hit when you do the transactions.

Answer 2

In Hyperledger Fabric, nodes can be of type orderers, endrosing peers or clients.

1. If we are talking about how many Byzantine nodes, then the precise answer is as follows: a) There is no limit on Byzantine peers and clients. If there are too many of them, a client just won't be able to get his transaction endorsed. However the integrity of the system is not endangered. b) Since the consensus algorithm is run between the orderers, then the limit depends on that specific algorithm used. Remember Hyperledger Fabric supports pluggable consensus, meaning that the consensus algorithm is not necessarily hardcoded. In its current implementation, Hypeledger Fabric runs "Kafka" which is NOT Byzantine-Fault tolerant. This means that even one Byzantine orderer can compromise the whole system! However, there are plans for BFT-Smart which is Byzantine-Fault tolerant and supports up to 33% faulty nodes, as the above answer says.
2. If we are talking about the total number of nodes, then the precise answer is as follows: a) There is (theoretically) no limit on the number of clients-peers. b) The practical limit of orderers again depends on the consensus. For BFT, this translates up to practically 10 (maybe 20) orderers.

Answer 3

As per my recent conversations with the teams which have implemented Hyperledger Fabric on version 1.1 it seems the performance is okay for upto 16 to 18 nodes. It seems to be a trade off due to the faster finality demonstrated by Hyperledger Fabric.

Answer 4

The answer on that post is now incorrect. Fabric does not currently used Byzantine Fault Tolerance, it only has Crash Tolerance through Kafka ordering. Byzantine Fault Tolerance is estimated to come around Fabric 1.4.

With Kafka, there is not a limit on the number of nodes. There is a performance hit as you introduce nodes, Hyperledger Sawtooth is known to be better for node scalability