I'm doing a book exercise that says to write a program that generates psuedorandom numbers. I started off simple with.
#include "std_lib_facilities.h"
int randint()
{
int random = 0;
random = rand();
return random;
}
int main()
{
char input = 0;
cout << "Press any character and enter to generate a random number." << endl;
while (cin >> input)
cout << randint() << endl;
keep_window_open();
}
I noticed that each time the program was run, there would be the same "random" output. So I looked into random number generators and decided to try seeding by including this first in randint().
srand(5355);
Which just generated the same number over and over (I feel stupid now for implementing it.)
So I thought I'd be clever and implement the seed like this.
srand(rand());
This basically just did the same as the program did in the first place but outputted a different set of numbers (which makes sense since the first number generated by rand() is always 41.)
The only thing I could think of to make this more random is to:
- Have the user input a number and set that as the seed (which would be easy to implement, but this is a last resort)
OR
- Somehow have the seed be set to the computer clock or some other constantly changing number.
Am I in over my head and should I stop now? Is option 2 difficult to implement? Any other ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Option 2 isn't difficult, here you go:
srand(time(NULL));
you'll need to include stdlib.h
for srand()
and time.h
for time()
.
srand() should only be used once:
int randint()
{
int random = rand();
return random;
}
int main()
{
// To get a unique sequence the random number generator should only be
// seeded once during the life of the application.
// As long as you don't try and start the application mulitple times a second
// you can use time() to get a ever changing seed point that only repeats every
// 60 or so years (assuming 32 bit clock).
srand(time(NULL));
// Comment the above line out if you need to debug with deterministic behavior.
char input = 0;
cout << "Press any character and enter to generate a random number." << endl;
while (cin >> input)
{
cout << randint() << endl;
}
keep_window_open();
}
It is common to seed the random number generator with the current time. Try:
srand(time(NULL));
The problem is that if you don't seed the generator it will seed itself with 0
(as if srand(0)
were called). PRNGs are designed to generate the same sequence when seeded the same (due to the fact that PNRGs are not really random, they're deterministic algorithms and maybe a bit because it's quite useful for testing).
When you're trying to seed it with a random number using
srand(rand());
you're in effect doing:
srand(0);
x = rand(); // x will always be the same.
srand(x);
As FigBug mentioned, using the time to seed the generator is commonly used.
I think that the point of these articles is to have a go at implementing the algorithm that is in rand() not how to seed it effectively.
producing (pseudo) random numbers is non trivial and is worth investigating different techniques of generating them. I don't think that simply using rand() is what the authors had in mind.