One example for curve is shown as below. The elbow point might be x=3 or 4. How to compute the elbow for a curve automatically and mathematically?
问题:
回答1:
You might want to look for the point with the maximum absolute second derivative which, for a set of discrete points x[i]
as you have there, can be approximated with a central difference:
secondDerivative[i] = x[i+1] + x[i-1] - 2 * x[i]
As noted above, what you really want is the point with maximum curvature, but the second derivative will do, and this central difference is a good proxy for the second derivative.
回答2:
I created a Python package that attempts to implement the Kneedle algorithm.
To recreate the function above and detect the point of maximum curvature:
x = range(1,21)
y = [0.065, 0.039, 0.030, 0.024, 0.023, 0.022, 0.019, 0.0185, 0.0187,
0.016, 0.015, 0.016, 0.0135, 0.0130, 0.0125, 0.0120, 0.0117, 0.0115, 0.0112, 0.013]
kn = KneeLocator(x, y, curve='convex', direction='decreasing')
print(kn.knee)
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import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
plt.xlabel('x')
plt.ylabel('f(x)')
plt.xticks(range(1,21))
plt.plot(x, y, 'bx-')
plt.vlines(kn.knee, plt.ylim()[0], plt.ylim()[1], linestyles='dashed')
回答3:
Functions like this one are usually called L-curves for their shapes. They appear when solving ill-posed problems through regularization.
The 'elbow'-point is the point on the curve with the maximum absolute second derivative.
回答4:
What you really want is the point with maximum curvature. When the slope is much smaller than 1, this can be approximated by the second derivative (as @ebo points out), but this is not always the case.