Signed session cookies. A good idea?

问题:

In an effort to increase performance, I was thinking of trying to eliminate a plain 'session cookie', but encrypt all the information in the cookie itself.

A very simple example:

userid= 12345
time=now()
signature = hmac('SHA1',userid + ":" + time, secret);

cookie = userid + ':' + time + ':' + signature;

The time would be used for a maximum expirytime, so cookies won't live on forever.

Now for the big question: is this a bad idea?

Am I better off using AES256 instead? In my case the data is not confidential, but it must not be changed under any circumstances.

EDIT

After some good critique and comments, I'd like to add this:

• The 'secret' would be unique per-user and unpredictable (random string + user id ?)
• The cookie will expire automatically (this is done based on the time value + a certain amount of seconds).
• If a user changes their password, (or perhaps even logs out?) the secret should change.

A last note: I'm trying come up with solutions to decrease database load. This is only one of the solutions I'm investigating, but it's kind of my favourite. The main reason is that I don't have to look into other storage mechanism better suited for this kind of data (memcache, nosql) and it makes the web application a bit more 'stateless'.

回答1:

A signed token is a good method for anything where you want to issue a token and then, when it is returned, be able to verify that you issued the token, without having to store any data on the server side. This is good for features like:

• time-limited-account-login;
• password-resetting;
• anti-XSRF forms;
• time-limited-form-submission (anti-spam).

It's not in itself a replacement for a session cookie, but if it can eliminate the need for any session storage at all that's probably a good thing, even if the performance difference isn't going to be huge.

HMAC is one reasonable way of generating a signed token. It's not going to be the fastest; you may be able to get away with a simple hash if you know about and can avoid extension attacks. I'll leave you to decide whether that's worth the risk for you.

I'm assuming that hmac() in whatever language it is you're using has been set up to use a suitable server-side secret key, without which you can't have a secure signed token. This secret must be strong and well-protected if you are to base your whole authentication system around it. If you have to change it, everyone gets logged out.

For login and password-resetting purposes you may want to add an extra factor to the token, a password generation number. You can re-use the salt of the hashed password in the database for this if you like. The idea is that when the user changes passwords it should invalidate any issued tokens (except for the cookie on the browser doing the password change, which gets replaced with a re-issued one). Otherwise, a user discovering their account has been compromised cannot lock other parties out.

回答2:

Yes, this is a bad idea.

For starters, it's not secure. With this scheme, an attacker can generate their own cookie and impersonate any user.

Session identifiers should be chosen from a large (128-bit) space by a cryptographic random number generator.

They should be kept private, so that attackers cannot steal them and impersonate an authenticated user. Any request that performs an action that requires authorization should be tamper-proof. That is, the entire request must have some kind of integrity protection such as an HMAC so that its contents can't be altered. For web applications, these requirements lead inexorably to HTTPS.

What performance concerns do you have? I've never seen a web application where proper security created any sort of hotspot.

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If the channel doesn't have privacy and integrity, you open yourself up to man-in-the-middle attacks. For example, without privacy, Alice sends her password to Bob. Eve snoops it and can log in later as Alice. Or, with partial integrity, Alice attaches her signed cookie to a purchase request and sends them to Bob. Eve intercepts the request and modifies the shipping address. Bob validates the MAC on the cookie, but can't detect that the address has been altered.

I don't have any numbers, but it seems to me that the opportunities for man-in-the-middle attacks are constantly growing. I notice restaurants using the wi-fi network they make available to customers for their credit-card processing. People at libraries and in work-places are often susceptible to sniffing if their traffic isn't over HTTPS.

回答3:

I know this question is very old now but I thought it might be a good idea to update the answers with a more current response. For anyone like myself who may stumble across it.

In an effort to increase performance, I was thinking of trying to eliminate a plain 'session cookie', but encrypt all the information in the cookie itself.

Now for the big question: is this a bad idea?

The short answer is: No it's not a bad idea, in fact this is a really good idea and has become an industry standard.

The long answer is: It depends on your implementation. Sessions are great, they are fast, they are simple and they are easily secured. Where as a stateless system works well however, is a bit more involved to deploy and may be outside the scope of smaller projects.

Implementing an authentication system based on Tokens (cookies) is very common now and works exceedingly well for stateless systems/apis. This makes it possible to authenticate for many different applications with a single account. ie. login to {unaffiliated site} with Facebook / Google.

Implementing an oAuth system like this is a BIG subject in and of itself. So I'll leave you with some documentation oAuth2 Docs. I also recommend looking into Json Web Tokens (JWT).

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A last note: I'm trying come up with solutions to decrease database load. This is only one of the solutions I'm investigating

Redis would work well for offloading database queries. Redis is an in memory simple storage system. Very fast, ~temporary storage that can help reduce DB hits.

回答4:

What makes you think this will improve performance vs. secure session IDs and retrieving the userid and time information from the server-side component of the session?

If something must be tamper-proof, don't put it in the toddlers' hands. As in, don't give it to the client at all, even with the tamper-proof locking.

Ignoring the ideological issues, this looks pretty decent. You don't have a nonce. You should add that. Just some random garbage that you store along with the userid and time, to prevent replay or prediction.

回答5:

You should not reinvent the wheel. The session handler that comes with your development platform far is more secure and certainly easier to implement. Cookies should always be very large random numbers that links to server side data. A cookie that contains a user id and time stamp doesn't help harden the session from attack.

This proposed session handler is more vulnerable to attack than using a Cryptographic nonce for each session. An attack scenario is as follows.

It is likely that you are using the same secret for your HMAC calculation for all sessions. Thus this secret could be brute forced by an attacker logging in with his own account. By looking at his session id he can obtain everything except for the secret. Then the attacker could brute force the secret until the hmac value can be reproduced. Using this secret he can rebuild a administrative cookie and change his user_id=1, which will probably grant him administrative access.