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问题:
I am doing some performance critical work in C++, and we are currently using integer calculations for problems that are inherently floating point because "its faster". This causes a whole lot of annoying problems and adds a lot of annoying code.
Now, I remember reading about how floating point calculations were so slow approximately circa the 386 days, where I believe (IIRC) that there was an optional co-proccessor. But surely nowadays with exponentially more complex and powerful CPUs it makes no difference in "speed" if doing floating point or integer calculation? Especially since the actual calculation time is tiny compared to something like causing a pipeline stall or fetching something from main memory?
I know the correct answer is to benchmark on the target hardware, what would be a good way to test this? I wrote two tiny C++ programs and compared their run time with "time" on Linux, but the actual run time is too variable (doesn't help I am running on a virtual server). Short of spending my entire day running hundreds of benchmarks, making graphs etc. is there something I can do to get a reasonable test of the relative speed? Any ideas or thoughts? Am I completely wrong?
The programs I used as follows, they are not identical by any means:
#include <iostream>
#include <cmath>
#include <cstdlib>
#include <time.h>
int main( int argc, char** argv )
{
int accum = 0;
srand( time( NULL ) );
for( unsigned int i = 0; i < 100000000; ++i )
{
accum += rand( ) % 365;
}
std::cout << accum << std::endl;
return 0;
}
Program 2:
#include <iostream>
#include <cmath>
#include <cstdlib>
#include <time.h>
int main( int argc, char** argv )
{
float accum = 0;
srand( time( NULL ) );
for( unsigned int i = 0; i < 100000000; ++i )
{
accum += (float)( rand( ) % 365 );
}
std::cout << accum << std::endl;
return 0;
}
Thanks in advance!
Edit: The platform I care about is regular x86 or x86-64 running on desktop Linux and Windows machines.
Edit 2(pasted from a comment below): We have an extensive code base currently. Really I have come up against the generalization that we "must not use float since integer calculation is faster" - and I am looking for a way (if this is even true) to disprove this generalized assumption. I realize that it would be impossible to predict the exact outcome for us short of doing all the work and profiling it afterwards.
Anyway, thanks for all your excellent answers and help. Feel free to add anything else :).
回答1:
Alas, I can only give you an "it depends" answer...
From my experience, there are many, many variables to performance...especially between integer & floating point math. It varies strongly from processor to processor (even within the same family such as x86) because different processors have different "pipeline" lengths. Also, some operations are generally very simple (such as addition) and have an accelerated route through the processor, and others (such as division) take much, much longer.
The other big variable is where the data reside. If you only have a few values to add, then all of the data can reside in cache, where they can be quickly sent to the CPU. A very, very slow floating point operation that already has the data in cache will be many times faster than an integer operation where an integer needs to be copied from system memory.
I assume that you are asking this question because you are working on a performance critical application. If you are developing for the x86 architecture, and you need extra performance, you might want to look into using the SSE extensions. This can greatly speed up single-precision floating point arithmetic, as the same operation can be performed on multiple data at once, plus there is a separate* bank of registers for the SSE operations. (I noticed in your second example you used "float" instead of "double", making me think you are using single-precision math).
*Note: Using the old MMX instructions would actually slow down programs, because those old instructions actually used the same registers as the FPU does, making it impossible to use both the FPU and MMX at the same time.
回答2:
For example (lesser numbers are faster),
64-bit Intel Xeon X5550 @ 2.67GHz, gcc 4.1.2 -O3
short add/sub: 1.005460 [0]
short mul/div: 3.926543 [0]
long add/sub: 0.000000 [0]
long mul/div: 7.378581 [0]
long long add/sub: 0.000000 [0]
long long mul/div: 7.378593 [0]
float add/sub: 0.993583 [0]
float mul/div: 1.821565 [0]
double add/sub: 0.993884 [0]
double mul/div: 1.988664 [0]
32-bit Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 265 @ 1.81GHz, gcc 3.4.6 -O3
short add/sub: 0.553863 [0]
short mul/div: 12.509163 [0]
long add/sub: 0.556912 [0]
long mul/div: 12.748019 [0]
long long add/sub: 5.298999 [0]
long long mul/div: 20.461186 [0]
float add/sub: 2.688253 [0]
float mul/div: 4.683886 [0]
double add/sub: 2.700834 [0]
double mul/div: 4.646755 [0]
As Dan pointed out, even once you normalize for clock frequency (which can be misleading in itself in pipelined designs), results will vary wildly based on CPU architecture (individual ALU/FPU performance, as well as actual number of ALUs/FPUs available per core in superscalar designs which influences how many independent operations can execute in parallel -- the latter factor is not exercised by the code below as all operations below are sequentially dependent.)
Poor man's FPU/ALU operation benchmark:
#include <stdio.h>
#ifdef _WIN32
#include <sys/timeb.h>
#else
#include <sys/time.h>
#endif
#include <time.h>
#include <cstdlib>
double
mygettime(void) {
# ifdef _WIN32
struct _timeb tb;
_ftime(&tb);
return (double)tb.time + (0.001 * (double)tb.millitm);
# else
struct timeval tv;
if(gettimeofday(&tv, 0) < 0) {
perror("oops");
}
return (double)tv.tv_sec + (0.000001 * (double)tv.tv_usec);
# endif
}
template< typename Type >
void my_test(const char* name) {
Type v = 0;
// Do not use constants or repeating values
// to avoid loop unroll optimizations.
// All values >0 to avoid division by 0
// Perform ten ops/iteration to reduce
// impact of ++i below on measurements
Type v0 = (Type)(rand() % 256)/16 + 1;
Type v1 = (Type)(rand() % 256)/16 + 1;
Type v2 = (Type)(rand() % 256)/16 + 1;
Type v3 = (Type)(rand() % 256)/16 + 1;
Type v4 = (Type)(rand() % 256)/16 + 1;
Type v5 = (Type)(rand() % 256)/16 + 1;
Type v6 = (Type)(rand() % 256)/16 + 1;
Type v7 = (Type)(rand() % 256)/16 + 1;
Type v8 = (Type)(rand() % 256)/16 + 1;
Type v9 = (Type)(rand() % 256)/16 + 1;
double t1 = mygettime();
for (size_t i = 0; i < 100000000; ++i) {
v += v0;
v -= v1;
v += v2;
v -= v3;
v += v4;
v -= v5;
v += v6;
v -= v7;
v += v8;
v -= v9;
}
// Pretend we make use of v so compiler doesn't optimize out
// the loop completely
printf("%s add/sub: %f [%d]\n", name, mygettime() - t1, (int)v&1);
t1 = mygettime();
for (size_t i = 0; i < 100000000; ++i) {
v /= v0;
v *= v1;
v /= v2;
v *= v3;
v /= v4;
v *= v5;
v /= v6;
v *= v7;
v /= v8;
v *= v9;
}
// Pretend we make use of v so compiler doesn't optimize out
// the loop completely
printf("%s mul/div: %f [%d]\n", name, mygettime() - t1, (int)v&1);
}
int main() {
my_test< short >("short");
my_test< long >("long");
my_test< long long >("long long");
my_test< float >("float");
my_test< double >("double");
return 0;
}
回答3:
Addition is much faster than rand
, so your program is (especially) useless.
You need to identify performance hotspots and incrementally modify your program. It sounds like you have problems with your development environment that will need to be solved first. Is it impossible to run your program on your PC for a small problem set?
Generally, attempting FP jobs with integer arithmetic is a recipe for slow.
回答4:
There is likely to be a significant difference in real-world speed between fixed-point and floating-point math, but the theoretical best-case throughput of the ALU vs FPU is completely irrelevant. Instead, the number of integer and floating-point registers (real registers, not register names) on your architecture which are not otherwise used by your computation (e.g. for loop control), the number of elements of each type which fit in a cache line, optimizations possible considering the different semantics for integer vs. floating point math -- these effects will dominate. The data dependencies of your algorithm play a significant role here, so that no general comparison will predict the performance gap on your problem.
For example, integer addition is commutative, so if the compiler sees a loop like you used for a benchmark (assuming the random data was prepared in advance so it wouldn't obscure the results), it can unroll the loop and calculate partial sums with no dependencies, then add them when the loop terminates. But with floating point, the compiler has to do the operations in the same order you requested (you've got sequence points in there so the compiler has to guarantee the same result, which disallows reordering) so there's a strong dependency of each addition on the result of the previous one.
You're likely to fit more integer operands in cache at a time as well. So the fixed-point version might outperform the float version by an order of magnitude even on a machine where the FPU has theoretically higher throughput.
回答5:
TIL This varies (a lot). Here are some results using gnu compiler (btw I also checked by compiling on machines, gnu g++ 5.4 from xenial is a hell of a lot faster than 4.6.3 from linaro on precise)
Intel i7 4700MQ xenial
short add: 0.822491
short sub: 0.832757
short mul: 1.007533
short div: 3.459642
long add: 0.824088
long sub: 0.867495
long mul: 1.017164
long div: 5.662498
long long add: 0.873705
long long sub: 0.873177
long long mul: 1.019648
long long div: 5.657374
float add: 1.137084
float sub: 1.140690
float mul: 1.410767
float div: 2.093982
double add: 1.139156
double sub: 1.146221
double mul: 1.405541
double div: 2.093173
Intel i3 2370M has similar results
short add: 1.369983
short sub: 1.235122
short mul: 1.345993
short div: 4.198790
long add: 1.224552
long sub: 1.223314
long mul: 1.346309
long div: 7.275912
long long add: 1.235526
long long sub: 1.223865
long long mul: 1.346409
long long div: 7.271491
float add: 1.507352
float sub: 1.506573
float mul: 2.006751
float div: 2.762262
double add: 1.507561
double sub: 1.506817
double mul: 1.843164
double div: 2.877484
Intel(R) Celeron(R) 2955U (Acer C720 Chromebook running xenial)
short add: 1.999639
short sub: 1.919501
short mul: 2.292759
short div: 7.801453
long add: 1.987842
long sub: 1.933746
long mul: 2.292715
long div: 12.797286
long long add: 1.920429
long long sub: 1.987339
long long mul: 2.292952
long long div: 12.795385
float add: 2.580141
float sub: 2.579344
float mul: 3.152459
float div: 4.716983
double add: 2.579279
double sub: 2.579290
double mul: 3.152649
double div: 4.691226
DigitalOcean 1GB Droplet Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630L v2 (running trusty)
short add: 1.094323
short sub: 1.095886
short mul: 1.356369
short div: 4.256722
long add: 1.111328
long sub: 1.079420
long mul: 1.356105
long div: 7.422517
long long add: 1.057854
long long sub: 1.099414
long long mul: 1.368913
long long div: 7.424180
float add: 1.516550
float sub: 1.544005
float mul: 1.879592
float div: 2.798318
double add: 1.534624
double sub: 1.533405
double mul: 1.866442
double div: 2.777649
AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 4122 (precise)
short add: 3.396932
short sub: 3.530665
short mul: 3.524118
short div: 15.226630
long add: 3.522978
long sub: 3.439746
long mul: 5.051004
long div: 15.125845
long long add: 4.008773
long long sub: 4.138124
long long mul: 5.090263
long long div: 14.769520
float add: 6.357209
float sub: 6.393084
float mul: 6.303037
float div: 17.541792
double add: 6.415921
double sub: 6.342832
double mul: 6.321899
double div: 15.362536
This uses code from http://pastebin.com/Kx8WGUfg as benchmark-pc.c
g++ -fpermissive -O3 -o benchmark-pc benchmark-pc.c
I've run multiple passes, but this seems to be the case that general numbers are the same.
One notable exception seems to be ALU mul vs FPU mul. Addition and subtraction seem trivially different.
Here is the above in chart form (click for full size, lower is faster and preferable):
Update to accomodate @Peter Cordes
https://gist.github.com/Lewiscowles1986/90191c59c9aedf3d08bf0b129065cccc
i7 4700MQ Linux Ubuntu Xenial 64-bit (all patches to 2018-03-13 applied)
short add: 0.773049
short sub: 0.789793
short mul: 0.960152
short div: 3.273668
int add: 0.837695
int sub: 0.804066
int mul: 0.960840
int div: 3.281113
long add: 0.829946
long sub: 0.829168
long mul: 0.960717
long div: 5.363420
long long add: 0.828654
long long sub: 0.805897
long long mul: 0.964164
long long div: 5.359342
float add: 1.081649
float sub: 1.080351
float mul: 1.323401
float div: 1.984582
double add: 1.081079
double sub: 1.082572
double mul: 1.323857
double div: 1.968488
AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 4122 (precise, DreamHost shared-hosting)
short add: 1.235603
short sub: 1.235017
short mul: 1.280661
short div: 5.535520
int add: 1.233110
int sub: 1.232561
int mul: 1.280593
int div: 5.350998
long add: 1.281022
long sub: 1.251045
long mul: 1.834241
long div: 5.350325
long long add: 1.279738
long long sub: 1.249189
long long mul: 1.841852
long long div: 5.351960
float add: 2.307852
float sub: 2.305122
float mul: 2.298346
float div: 4.833562
double add: 2.305454
double sub: 2.307195
double mul: 2.302797
double div: 5.485736
Intel Xeon E5-2630L v2 @ 2.4GHz (Trusty 64-bit, DigitalOcean VPS)
short add: 1.040745
short sub: 0.998255
short mul: 1.240751
short div: 3.900671
int add: 1.054430
int sub: 1.000328
int mul: 1.250496
int div: 3.904415
long add: 0.995786
long sub: 1.021743
long mul: 1.335557
long div: 7.693886
long long add: 1.139643
long long sub: 1.103039
long long mul: 1.409939
long long div: 7.652080
float add: 1.572640
float sub: 1.532714
float mul: 1.864489
float div: 2.825330
double add: 1.535827
double sub: 1.535055
double mul: 1.881584
double div: 2.777245
回答6:
Two points to consider -
Modern hardware can overlap instructions, execute them in parallel and reorder them to make best use of the hardware. And also, any significant floating point program is likely to have significant integer work too even if it's only calculating indices into arrays, loop counter etc. so even if you have a slow floating point instruction it may well be running on a separate bit of hardware overlapped with some of the integer work. My point being that even if the floating point instructions are slow that integer ones, your overall program may run faster because it can make use of more of the hardware.
As always, the only way to be sure is to profile your actual program.
Second point is that most CPUs these days have SIMD instructions for floating point that can operate on multiple floating point values all at the same time. For example you can load 4 floats into a single SSE register and the perform 4 multiplications on them all in parallel. If you can rewrite parts of your code to use SSE instructions then it seems likely it will be faster than an integer version. Visual c++ provides compiler intrinsic functions to do this, see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/x5c07e2a(v=VS.80).aspx for some information.
回答7:
I ran a test that just added 1 to the number instead of rand(). Results (on an x86-64) were:
- short: 4.260s
- int: 4.020s
- long long: 3.350s
- float: 7.330s
- double: 7.210s
回答8:
Unless you're writing code that will be called millions of times per second (such as, e.g., drawing a line to the screen in a graphics application), integer vs. floating-point arithmetic is rarely the bottleneck.
The usual first step to the efficiency questions is to profile your code to see where the run-time is really spent. The linux command for this is gprof
.
Edit:
Though I suppose you can always implement the line drawing algorithm using integers and floating-point numbers, call it a large number of times and see if it makes a difference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bresenham's_algorithm
回答9:
The floating point version will be much slower, if there is no remainder operation. Since all the adds are sequential, the cpu will not be able to parallelise the summation. The latency will be critical. FPU add latency is typically 3 cycles, while integer add is 1 cycle. However, the divider for the remainder operator will probably the critical part, as it is not fully pipelined on modern cpu's. so, assuming the divide/remainder instruction will consume the bulk of the time, the difference due to add latency will be small.
回答10:
Today, integer operations are usually a little bit faster than floating point operations. So if you can do a calculation with the same operations in integer and floating point, use integer. HOWEVER you are saying "This causes a whole lot of annoying problems and adds a lot of annoying code". That sounds like you need more operations because you use integer arithmetic instead of floating point. In that case, floating point will run faster because
as soon as you need more integer operations, you probably need a lot more, so the slight speed advantage is more than eaten up by the additional operations
the floating-point code is simpler, which means it is faster to write the code, which means that if it is speed critical, you can spend more time optimising the code.
回答11:
Based of that oh-so-reliable "something I've heard", back in the old days, integer calculation were about 20 to 50 times faster that floating point, and these days it's less than twice as faster.